Trail Talk: Letters from Green Bay
Betsy and Sal talk discuss dog walking and cycling etiquette on one of the North Shore's more popular trails.
Dear Betsy and Sal,
Nothing makes me angrier than bikers speeding by on the Green Bay Trail. Let met be clear. I don’t hate all people who ride their bicycles on the Trail, just the ones who race by at top speeds and weave through walkers as if we were orange cones on an obstacle course. You rude cyclists know who you are. You refuse to alert us walkers that you are coming up behind us, and you are unaware that as you skim by at lightning speed, we grab one another for dear life, retreat to the “shoulder” and curse your diminishing figure as you ride off into the distance. Shame on you. You should be on the road angering motorists, not terrorizing innocent ambulatory shade seeking strollers.
Signed,
This-really-isn’t-Betsy and her friend Lisa
Dear Betsy,
Rude cyclists? Maybe. Possibly. At times. But let’s be clear. The issue is not really about rogue velocipedes. It’s about safety. It’s about courtesy. And it’s about sharing.
Let’s start with sharing. I hate to share. If I order dessert and you want some, tough. On the other hand, if you’ve got a nanny and I need a sitter, I’d like to drop my kids at your house. My point? You need to learn to share, and that includes the Trail.
Courtesy. This is about gentle manners and kind words. Yes, if a rider is approaching, she should call out, “On your left” and offer a friendly wave and a “thanks” as she passes. In the same vein, the walkers, upon hearing the warning, should promptly move to the right of the Trail. They should not stop, turn, assess the situation, pass conspiratorial looks of disapproval about the fast-approaching cyclist, stumble first left and then right and then freeze and then realize that they haven’t moved out of the way even one inch.
And then there’s safety. Was the biker wearing a helmet? I hope so. That makes me crazy when bikers don’t wear helmets. Or you know what really makes me mad? When parents ride helmetless while their kids follow in full safety gear. Kudos to the kids. Shame on the parents.
Where was I? Oh. The terror on the Trail. Sorry about the crazy bikers. They need to be nice. But make sure you and your buddy aren’t plugged into your iPods, too engrossed in your chatting to heed the warnings, or too upset to move with alacrity to the side of the path.
You’ll never guess whose side I’m on.
Dear Sally,
Come clean. Your new license plate is “CYCO,” referring of course to your passion for cycling. To your credit, you are one of the good guys on two wheels when it comes to bike etiquette, though you do tend to get defensive when it comes to all things velo. Yes, we hear your helmet rant. I even agree. But here is where we differ. My Trail friends and I (and not just Lisa – I include Jill, Sue, Jan, and others) have been keeping track of the number of riders who offer up warnings of their arrival and those who just zoom past. The survey shows that teenage girls are the most polite, middle aged women announce themselves about fifty percent of the time, and boys and men of all ages prefer to heed no warnings ever and endanger walkers and runners on weekdays and weekends and especially on overcrowded vacation days.
Signed,
Okay-yes-it’s-Betsy
Dear Sister,
You cannot legislate speed on the Trail. Kindness is contagious. According to your survey, we should ban all males. I would vote for that.
Can we talk about dogs off leash? That’s my pet pet peeve.
- CYCO
Dear Cyco Cyster,
Dogs off leash are truly a problem on the Trail. They pose a hazard to bikers, walkers and other dogs. Of course, one super-fast, highly aggressive off leash dog could easily take out one speedy biker, so there is a potential up-side to these unleashed canines. However, most free range Fidos aren’t moving that fast, and most choose to chase squirrels, other dogs, and the occasional tricycle rider. In other words, keep your dog on a leash. And pick up after him.
Signed,
Pooch Patrol
Got an issue with the current Green Bay Trail etiquette or lack thereof? Leave a comment and get the conversation going.
Bob Levi
8:50 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012
You cite another example of the lack of common courtesy that has become endemic in the U.S over the past years. What ever happened to saying "please" and "thank you"? It's a shame. I think that talk radio has a lot to do with it, since everyone is "entitled" to an opinion. In addition, texting and other electronic forms of communication have lessened how people interact with one another. We need to make the best of it and maybe instill a sense of responsibility and good manners in our kids and grandkids.
Stuart Senescu
2:01 pm on Saturday, July 7, 2012
Walkers/joggers, please make sure you can hear "on your left" by turning down the volume on your pods/radios and magnetometers that you've got plugged into your ear. And when you do hear 'on your left' please just wiggle your hand or do a mini wave so we know you know we're coming up. Or just take one step to the right so we know you know. And if you're a family biking together, keep pedaling. Having 7 or 8 year old slow down only makes him/her wobble more.
If you're an adult and don't wear a helmet please wear a sign: "No tax dollars should be spent on my rescue, I'm an idiot. My helmeted five year old will get a job to support me for another 30 years."
E Wilson
1:04 am on Sunday, July 8, 2012
I've been running on the trail several times a week for a year now, and not ONCE have I heard a biker call out "on your left." I grew up running and biking on the Des Plaines River Trail and never had an issue; I was surprised that people are so rude here. I'm not perfect, but even when running I make sure to issue a warning to walkers or fellow runners when I pass them. I have never encountered a "rude" cyclist other than breaking the etiquette of announcing him/herself.
Also: dogs, as much as we love them need to be leashed. While I'm fond of them, I do not appreciate a loose dog running up to me or getting excited at seeing a (usually) fast-moving target and potentially chasing me. You might know your dog is friendly, but I don't. And frankly I don't want to ruin my pace to find out. Furthermore, has anyone else noticed how much Edith Shelton Park (Glencoe) smells like dog poo in the summer? I have; pick up after your furbaby!
jim
2:42 pm on Sunday, July 8, 2012
You certain it Dog Poo?
David Greenberg
2:35 am on Sunday, July 8, 2012
It's a BIKE path. Pedestrians should walk single file on the opposite side so they can see bicycle traffic and move out of the way. In my experience, calling out to someone who's walking on the wrong side of the trail only results in that person turning their head and looking at the person calling out, and that makes them move into the path of the oncoming bicyclist - which is an accident just waiting to happen. Saying nothing results in no issues. calling out to someone with kids is an even bigger issue because kids rarely ride in a straight line, and calling out can result in a very bad accident - so again, say nothing, and ther's no problems.
For what it's worth, unless you can ride .25 mile in a straight line, and your're over 12 - you don't belong on the trails - stick to the Parks until you learn how to control the vehicle properly.
Life is Good
7:59 am on Sunday, July 8, 2012
It is not ONLY a bike path.....Trail Facts
Trail End Points: St. Johns Ave. at Sheridan Rd. (Highland Park) to Greenleaf Ave. (Wilmette)
Counties: Cook, Lake
Trail Length: 8.9 miles
Trail Category: Rail-Trail
Trail Surfaces: Asphalt, Concrete, Crushed Stone
Trail Activities: Bike, Inline Skating, Wheelchair Accessible, Walking, Cross Country Skiing
Marilyn Magnusson
8:04 am on Sunday, July 8, 2012
I run on the trail several times a week and have not encountered a rude cyclist, only those who walk their dogs, or walk in a group on the gravel part of the path and make no effort to move when they see a runner approaching. I was almost hit by a biker the other day, as I had to move out onto the asphalt because the dog walkers on the gravel would not move. It would not have been the bikers fault had I been hit.
Bob
5:09 pm on Sunday, July 8, 2012
When I'm running on a path I'll yell out on your left before I get too close to walkers. I'd hate give someone a heart attack who is trying to get in better shape by exercising.
M-J Detwiler
9:21 am on Monday, July 9, 2012
I am both a walker and biker, but an average speed biker. My issue is the same as someone else mentioned. With everyone wearing headphones, no one can hear you call out "on your left". I do it anyway out of habit, but most don't react so you know they didn't hear you. I feel bad when they are startled, but does everyone has to listen to music all the time? I never use an iPod outside because I want to be to be aware of the environment around me at all times.
Walter Edelberg
9:24 am on Monday, July 9, 2012
I've been biking on the GBT for nearly twenty years. I always call out "on your left" two or three times well before I pass any pedestrians, runners, or bikers. I thank people as I pass. People wearing earbuds seem not to hear me; so if you do that, please keep far to the sides of the path, walk in a straight line, and please look both ways before turning.
Two suggestions for bikers. (1) If your small child is riding with you, please have her or him ride *in front of you*, not behind. That way, you can make sure they are keeping to the right and can advise them of any dangers. (2) Two or more riders should ride in single file, at least when anyone is approaching from the opposite direction.